Would the Imperials accept Argonians among their ranks?

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Eolexis

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I know that the man and elf races don't trust Argonians and Khajiits but I don't know if there is any bad history before the Imperials and the Argonians. I would assume they would be allowed to join the Legion if they signed up.
 

DrunkenMage

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Yes they would be allowed.
 

Rimfaxe96

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Actually once you've proven yourself you'll be honored no matter what you are. Just because people still prefer their own kind doesn't mean they're automatically anti-everyone else.

Alvur Relds: Well, sir, of course, having served with the legions for twenty years, and having carried the Emperor's standard, I'd like to say he was universally loved and respected. But we aren't much in furriner-loving line like you Westers, and we don't thank you for interfering. I've gotten to know some catmen and even lizards in the Service, and some of them are not bad folk. But a people should keep to their own, if you take my meaning. And that's not the Empire's way. I look around, I don't see much benefit from uniting the provinces, unless you're a fatcat merchant, or maybe a soldier.
 

hershangames

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There's a bad story between every single province of tamriel, but they'll accept you since you survived Helgen.

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sheggy6

New Member
If you're part of the empire you should be able to take part in their military correct? It happened during roman times, and the imperials are essentially just the fantasy version of Romans, so, it should be do-able.

The Nords on the other hand I feel would be more racist towards you, since the recruiter essentially sends you on a suicide mission just cause he felt like it.
 

hershangames

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Nord's are more racist than America back in the 40's, and that's saying

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Radia964

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I agree, the Nords seem to be most racist...Argonians seem trustworthy for the most part...
The Orcs are very private. But once you've made friends with them. They're totally loyal.

I haven't finished main story yet, but I can say
The only ones I don't trust in the game are The Stormcloaks. I think I'll find out why
 

hershangames

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Yeah, you shouldn't trust the stormcloaks. They despise any kind of race except the Nord, and hate the empire for forbidding the cult to the one who created the empire, you shouldn't trust someone so mentally flffed.

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Skyrimosity

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Firstly, Argonia/Black Marsh is not a part of the Empire.

Secondly, calling all Nords racist... just wow. You are summarizing/stereotyping an entire race! That's racist!

Thirdly, the Stormcloaks believe the Empire has deviated from their roots. If I had a friend who created a company to help impoverished children, he died, and years later it was known for embezzling money from non-profit charities and dodging laws, do I still support the company? Hell to the no!

Fourthly, the Nords are not the most racist. That honor easily belongs to the High Elves/Altmer. Try being a Nord living in the Summerset Isles. Oh, what's that? Oh yeah. You can't. They won't let you.

But yeah, just to answer the OP, of course. Legion cares about soldiers more than their race.
 

DrunkenMage

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Fourthly, the Nords are not the most racist. That honor easily belongs to the High Elves/Altmer. Try being a Nord living in the Summerset Isles. Oh, what's that? Oh yeah. You can't. They won't let you.

Thalmor =/= Altmer. Thalmor slaughter as much of their own Altmer kin as they do Nords. Many Altmer fled the Thalmor to hide inside the provinces of man and warn them of the Thalmor, only to be hunted down and killed like dogs. The Night of Green Fire for example.

"And I've seen the face of evil. It was in the air above Sentinel on the Night of Green Fire. Back in 42 I was stationed in Hammerfell, on leave in Sentinel, trying to track down some refugee relatives who had fled persecution in Alinor. Suddenly an explosion of magic in the refugee quarter. Thalmor mages were attacking the Altmer dissidents who were resisting with magic of their own. I ran to the scene with other Legionaries who where stationed there, but the entire quarter was a smoking ruin by the time we arrived. Everyone was dead. Wholesale slaughter. The Dominion, not content with killing dissidents at home, came to Hammerfell to finish the job. We're supposedly at peace now. But I put in to be stationed here to keep an eye on the Thalmor. I've a feeling they're behind this unrest in Skyrim." - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Legate_Fasendil

There is nothing to suggest Altmer themselves won't allow other races to live in Summerset Isle. Thalmor might make your life hard, probably have no rights and be treated like second class citizens.

Try being a Bosmer under Thalmor rule, wondering if you're next for the purges no one ever hears about.
 
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DrunkenMage

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Nords on a whole aren't racist, the Old Holds have generally always been the "Skyrim for the Nords" type. But that is because they've mostly been isolated politically and geographically. Each province and race has their fair share of racists.

Look at the Argonians for example; their government had majority of non-Argonians and Argonians they considered tainted by Imperial influence slaughtered inside Black Marsh.
 

Skyrimosity

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Fourthly, the Nords are not the most racist. That honor easily belongs to the High Elves/Altmer. Try being a Nord living in the Summerset Isles. Oh, what's that? Oh yeah. You can't. They won't let you.

Thalmor =/= Altmer. Thalmor slaughter as much of their own Altmer kin as they do Nords. Many Altmer fled the Thalmor to hide inside the provinces of man and warn them of the Thalmor, only to be hunted down and killed like dogs. The Night of Green Fire for example.

Try being a Bosmer under Thalmor rule, wondering if you're next for the purges no one ever hears about.

Yes, all Altmer are indeed not Thalmor. However, as they were judging Nords based on the worst among them, it seems entirely fair that the Altmer would be looked at under the same light. I did not mean to call all Altmer racist, even though that is indeed exactly what I put. What I should have said, more correctly, is that the most racist organization in all of Tamriel is composed entirely of Altmer; the Thalmor

Let us compare Thalmor and Stormcloaks.

The Thalmor actively hunt down and kill dissidents even in provinces that are not in their possession. As you posted, Hammerfell. Also in Skyrim. Meanwhile, the Stormcloaks have Dunmer living in their capital city who absolutely loathe them, and Nordic dissidents as well. While they're not treated greatly, they certainly aren't slaughtered.

I'm not entirely sure what your last point was? I certainly did not intend to imply that the Thalmor only hate Nords. No, I think it's entirely fair to say they hate all non-Altmer races but are willing to tolerate mer over man. And even then they're extremely watchful over Altmer.

I think it is fair to say that the Thalmor are the most racist organization in all of Skyrim because not only do they actively hate every other race, but they also want to conquer them, oppress them, and/or kill them. The Stormcloaks haven't even kicked the Dunmer out of Windhelm.
 

Skyrimosity

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Nords on a whole aren't racist, the Old Holds have generally always been the "Skyrim for the Nords" type. But that is because they've mostly been isolated politically and geographically. Each province and race has their fair share of racists.

Look at the Argonians for example; their government had majority of non-Argonians and Argonians they considered tainted by Imperial influence slaughtered inside Black Marsh.
I think that racism is so prevalent in all of Tamriel simply due to design. Every race has its own distinct province wherein the majority of their race lives and only a few of the other races reside.

Cyrodiil for the Imperials, Black Marsh for the Argonians, Elsewyr for the Khajiit, High Rock for the Bretons, Skyrim for the Nords (yes, the Stormcloak battlecry makes a lot of sense due to Bethesda's design of Tamriel,) Valenwood for the Bosmer, Morrowind for the Dunmer, Orsinium for the Orcs (granted, a relatively new province,) Hammerfell for the Redguards, and Summerset Isles for the Altmer.

My point is, since each race has a province that is pretty much all it's own, racism formulates pretty naturally in Tamriel.
 

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