crashhat69
Member
I went on today and the loading times are a lot longer than usual. I was just on and my ps3 froze on a loading screen, I quit the game and my system restarted by itself.
Why are the loading time so long now?
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Dabiene Caristiana
Your friendly neighborhood weirdo
Tips:
In the options menu tick off all the auto saves and save ons. Bethesda themselves recommended this.
Also cut down on saves to about 2-5 range. Especially if you are making multiple characters on one file/user
My personal tip, for one character make 2 saves, one main and a back up. Tick the 'save every 60 minutes'. But that is to make sure you forget to save every once in a while. Switch savings to the main save and the back up one. That way if you mess up you can always go back to the previous save. Hope that makes sense.
I hope this helps you in any way.
Good luck!
In the options menu tick off all the auto saves and save ons. Bethesda themselves recommended this.
Also cut down on saves to about 2-5 range. Especially if you are making multiple characters on one file/user
My personal tip, for one character make 2 saves, one main and a back up. Tick the 'save every 60 minutes'. But that is to make sure you forget to save every once in a while. Switch savings to the main save and the back up one. That way if you mess up you can always go back to the previous save. Hope that makes sense.
I hope this helps you in any way.
Good luck!crashhat69
Member
Thanks for the tips, but that still doesn't answer my question as to why I sit at the loading screen longer than I used to. I'm only level 37 and every auto save option is off except the one where it saves on the menu where you go to the map, items, ect.
Harkin
Necromatic Mastermind
The game, if you haven't noticed before, slows down if you have hardly any harddrive space.
Dabienne was suggesting a few options which should actually help you - if your memory is fine and you have lots of system space (worth checking) then theres loads of other possibilites that could be causing your issue.
Disc scratches/marks?
Lense issues?
Or maybe something on your character is slowing the game down, like an exploit?
Create a new ps3 profile and test skyrim.
Dabiene Caristiana
Your friendly neighborhood weirdo
What Harkin said. Plus: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615803-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/64538445
There have been reports that the save files should be no bigger on average, than 18-22 MB. Though that is on PC last I check (an average one). As for consoles I would assume it would be about the same amount of data.
Also, the more quests you log in the more data it has to save and remember. You're bound to get quicker load times for a shorter play through than a longer one.
Even if you have a higher level character.
However, there are other various factors to include:
-Are there weapons and arrows laying around still after a battle that took place a long time ago? You'd be surprised how much this affects things.
-Are there ash piles and bodies that are randomly laying about? Same as the first, this can affect loading all the data.
-How many keys and/or books you have in your inventory. Sounds strange but oddly enough if you put away your extra junk that you have in your inventory it clears things up a bit. It's worked for me.
-How many saves you have. I know I already stated this but, it does have a huge affect. You should have no more than 10 saves maximum from what I read. I did a test myself and my game (on Xbox360) started spazzing out after 20 different save slots/files made.
-To clarify the time/completion meaning, here is an example:
The more quests you do, the more data right?
So if character A is a level 50 warrior and Character B is a level 30 warrior, but has done a ton of quests, and has a ton of junk in his inventory, has most of the houses and stuff hanging in said houses and character A hasn't done much but has only done grinding to level up, Character B has more stuff to load whilst Character A doesn't.
However I've read somewhere that if you save a certain amount of times it starts to affect things. In slot one you have the same character and have saved over dozens and dozens of times it might affect game play. I don't know if that is true or not but that's what I've heard. For me however, I don't really notice much of a difference.
So the amount of hours you put into it affect it, but the number of save overs of one slot doesn't. If that makes sense...
I don't know if you can see it on ps3, but if you open up the saves on the pause/settings menu, you can see the number on the left column.
example:
43 Skyrim 01:23
22 Labrynthian 24:56
13 Winterhold 12:13
They say the higher the number the more it slows down the game. But again, I haven't notice much of a difference on the 360.
You can also look into the game data and see how many MB each save has. I don't know how to get that data on a PS3 nor do I own a PS3 sadly, but I can imagine it would be on the main screen/menu/dashboard and then onto settings and/or data for games.
Some of this is mere speculation, because from my experience I have been through crashes even by following these tips, but this is Skyrim, it's going to crash. Every game has crashed at some point on someone's system. But Skyrim is pretty big. It's bound to be laggy, crashy, glitchy.. But that's the beauty of it I guess.
Hope this helps in any way. Note, this is from what I read and tested. My experiences may be different from other people but I listed these things to help. And I do hope they help you out. Loading screens are a pain in the butt.
Good luck!
There have been reports that the save files should be no bigger on average, than 18-22 MB. Though that is on PC last I check (an average one). As for consoles I would assume it would be about the same amount of data.
Also, the more quests you log in the more data it has to save and remember. You're bound to get quicker load times for a shorter play through than a longer one.
Even if you have a higher level character.
However, there are other various factors to include:
-Are there weapons and arrows laying around still after a battle that took place a long time ago? You'd be surprised how much this affects things.
-Are there ash piles and bodies that are randomly laying about? Same as the first, this can affect loading all the data.
-How many keys and/or books you have in your inventory. Sounds strange but oddly enough if you put away your extra junk that you have in your inventory it clears things up a bit. It's worked for me.
-How many saves you have. I know I already stated this but, it does have a huge affect. You should have no more than 10 saves maximum from what I read. I did a test myself and my game (on Xbox360) started spazzing out after 20 different save slots/files made.
-To clarify the time/completion meaning, here is an example:
The more quests you do, the more data right?
So if character A is a level 50 warrior and Character B is a level 30 warrior, but has done a ton of quests, and has a ton of junk in his inventory, has most of the houses and stuff hanging in said houses and character A hasn't done much but has only done grinding to level up, Character B has more stuff to load whilst Character A doesn't.
However I've read somewhere that if you save a certain amount of times it starts to affect things. In slot one you have the same character and have saved over dozens and dozens of times it might affect game play. I don't know if that is true or not but that's what I've heard. For me however, I don't really notice much of a difference.
So the amount of hours you put into it affect it, but the number of save overs of one slot doesn't. If that makes sense...
I don't know if you can see it on ps3, but if you open up the saves on the pause/settings menu, you can see the number on the left column.
example:
43 Skyrim 01:23
22 Labrynthian 24:56
13 Winterhold 12:13
They say the higher the number the more it slows down the game. But again, I haven't notice much of a difference on the 360.
You can also look into the game data and see how many MB each save has. I don't know how to get that data on a PS3 nor do I own a PS3 sadly, but I can imagine it would be on the main screen/menu/dashboard and then onto settings and/or data for games.
Some of this is mere speculation, because from my experience I have been through crashes even by following these tips, but this is Skyrim, it's going to crash. Every game has crashed at some point on someone's system. But Skyrim is pretty big. It's bound to be laggy, crashy, glitchy.. But that's the beauty of it I guess.
Hope this helps in any way. Note, this is from what I read and tested. My experiences may be different from other people but I listed these things to help. And I do hope they help you out. Loading screens are a pain in the butt.
Good luck!
crashhat69
Member
I was thinking about just starting over..after I save
Thanks for the info. Well, I ended up deleting everything having to do with skyrim off my system and started all over and now when I pause the game and go to system everything is greyed out except help, it's been like that since I started over.
What Harkin said. Plus: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615803-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/64538445
There have been reports that the save files should be no bigger on average, than 18-22 MB. Though that is on PC last I check (an average one). As for consoles I would assume it would be about the same amount of data.
Also, the more quests you log in the more data it has to save and remember. You're bound to get quicker load times for a shorter play through than a longer one.
Even if you have a higher level character.
However, there are other various factors to include:
-Are there weapons and arrows laying around still after a battle that took place a long time ago? You'd be surprised how much this affects things.
-Are there ash piles and bodies that are randomly laying about? Same as the first, this can affect loading all the data.
-How many keys and/or books you have in your inventory. Sounds strange but oddly enough if you put away your extra junk that you have in your inventory it clears things up a bit. It's worked for me.
-How many saves you have. I know I already stated this but, it does have a huge affect. You should have no more than 10 saves maximum from what I read. I did a test myself and my game (on Xbox360) started spazzing out after 20 different save slots/files made.
-To clarify the time/completion meaning, here is an example:
The more quests you do, the more data right?
So if character A is a level 50 warrior and Character B is a level 30 warrior, but has done a ton of quests, and has a ton of junk in his inventory, has most of the houses and stuff hanging in said houses and character A hasn't done much but has only done grinding to level up, Character B has more stuff to load whilst Character A doesn't.
However I've read somewhere that if you save a certain amount of times it starts to affect things. In slot one you have the same character and have saved over dozens and dozens of times it might affect game play. I don't know if that is true or not but that's what I've heard. For me however, I don't really notice much of a difference.
So the amount of hours you put into it affect it, but the number of save overs of one slot doesn't. If that makes sense...
I don't know if you can see it on ps3, but if you open up the saves on the pause/settings menu, you can see the number on the left column.
example:
43 Skyrim 01:23
22 Labrynthian 24:56
13 Winterhold 12:13
They say the higher the number the more it slows down the game. But again, I haven't notice much of a difference on the 360.
You can also look into the game data and see how many MB each save has. I don't know how to get that data on a PS3 nor do I own a PS3 sadly, but I can imagine it would be on the main screen/menu/dashboard and then onto settings and/or data for games.
Some of this is mere speculation, because from my experience I have been through crashes even by following these tips, but this is Skyrim, it's going to crash. Every game has crashed at some point on someone's system. But Skyrim is pretty big. It's bound to be laggy, crashy, glitchy.. But that's the beauty of it I guess.
Hope this helps in any way. Note, this is from what I read and tested. My experiences may be different from other people but I listed these things to help. And I do hope they help you out. Loading screens are a pain in the butt.
Good luck!
Thanks for the info. Well, I ended up deleting everything having to do with skyrim off my system and started all over and now when I pause the game and go to system everything is greyed out except help, it's been like that since I started over.
Mighty Pecan Pie
The secret American
What Harkin said. Plus: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615803-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/64538445
There have been reports that the save files should be no bigger on average, than 18-22 MB. Though that is on PC last I check (an average one). As for consoles I would assume it would be about the same amount of data.
Also, the more quests you log in the more data it has to save and remember. You're bound to get quicker load times for a shorter play through than a longer one.
Even if you have a higher level character.
However, there are other various factors to include:
-Are there weapons and arrows laying around still after a battle that took place a long time ago? You'd be surprised how much this affects things.
-Are there ash piles and bodies that are randomly laying about? Same as the first, this can affect loading all the data.
-How many keys and/or books you have in your inventory. Sounds strange but oddly enough if you put away your extra junk that you have in your inventory it clears things up a bit. It's worked for me.
-How many saves you have. I know I already stated this but, it does have a huge affect. You should have no more than 10 saves maximum from what I read. I did a test myself and my game (on Xbox360) started spazzing out after 20 different save slots/files made.
-To clarify the time/completion meaning, here is an example:
The more quests you do, the more data right?
So if character A is a level 50 warrior and Character B is a level 30 warrior, but has done a ton of quests, and has a ton of junk in his inventory, has most of the houses and stuff hanging in said houses and character A hasn't done much but has only done grinding to level up, Character B has more stuff to load whilst Character A doesn't.
However I've read somewhere that if you save a certain amount of times it starts to affect things. In slot one you have the same character and have saved over dozens and dozens of times it might affect game play. I don't know if that is true or not but that's what I've heard. For me however, I don't really notice much of a difference.
So the amount of hours you put into it affect it, but the number of save overs of one slot doesn't. If that makes sense...
I don't know if you can see it on ps3, but if you open up the saves on the pause/settings menu, you can see the number on the left column.
example:
43 Skyrim 01:23
22 Labrynthian 24:56
13 Winterhold 12:13
They say the higher the number the more it slows down the game. But again, I haven't notice much of a difference on the 360.
You can also look into the game data and see how many MB each save has. I don't know how to get that data on a PS3 nor do I own a PS3 sadly, but I can imagine it would be on the main screen/menu/dashboard and then onto settings and/or data for games.
Some of this is mere speculation, because from my experience I have been through crashes even by following these tips, but this is Skyrim, it's going to crash. Every game has crashed at some point on someone's system. But Skyrim is pretty big. It's bound to be laggy, crashy, glitchy.. But that's the beauty of it I guess.
Hope this helps in any way. Note, this is from what I read and tested. My experiences may be different from other people but I listed these things to help. And I do hope they help you out. Loading screens are a pain in the butt.
Good luck!
As far as I know, the red numbers only say how many saves have been made. That shouldn't have any influence if you clean up old saves, like you said
I didn't know about the weapons and arrow laying around or the keys. Then again, I didn't have much trouble with loading times or freezing.
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
I'm on PS3 as well and, while load times are still long (30 seconds or so most times), I've discovered the following slow things down once you get to level 30 or so and just get worse if you don't address them:
1) Autosaves - turn 'em off and just save a lot. Your game will still autosave occasionally when you go to your inventory screen, even if you set it for a really long period, but, not as often.
2) Don't hoard stuff - someone here on the forums told me that that can affect things and, yes it does! Just get rid of y our crap. You don't need it, and, frankly, do you really need 1,000 iron ingots?
3) If you have hearthfire - DO NOT build the library. I know it's cool, but it also has the same affect as 2)
4) NEVER leave weapons, armor, etc... just laying about after an encounter. Gather it up and, if you need to, stick it in to the corpse of your victim or in to a chest or container. If you leave it laying about it just mucks up the inventory processes of the game. If you put it in a container or body, eventually it will reset and disappear.
5) Get to know which items are permanent (non-respawing) and make sure to keep all of them in one place (or on a thrall if you need to), preferably a permanent chest or container. If it's stuff I give a damn about I use one of my own chest - otherwise I stick it all in the Treasure I chest by Riverwood and forget about it.
3) Don't over enchant and carry multiple enchantment sets. Double enchant one set of something and stick with it (you can always re-enchant more later if you need to or want to make a change).
4) Don't over enchant your followers - it's almost as bad as carrying around multiple highly enchanted items yourself.
5) Keep your quest logs clean - you can have a few in there, but, don't let the list get too long.
The above seems to help with load times, the "stutter" and freeze affect that often happens in the Rift and the exceeding slow inventory process when searching for things.
Plus you end up rich, rich, rich! And that helps.
crashhat69
Member
I'm on PS3 as well and, while load times are still long (30 seconds or so most times), I've discovered the following slow things down once you get to level 30 or so and just get worse if you don't address them:
1) Autosaves - turn 'em off and just save a lot. Your game will still autosave occasionally when you go to your inventory screen, even if you set it for a really long period, but, not as often.
2) Don't hoard stuff - someone here on the forums told me that that can affect things and, yes it does! Just get rid of y our crap. You don't need it, and, frankly, do you really need 1,000 iron ingots?
3) If you have hearthfire - DO NOT build the library. I know it's cool, but it also has the same affect as 2)
4) NEVER leave weapons, armor, etc... just laying about after an encounter. Gather it up and, if you need to, stick it in to the corpse of your victim or in to a chest or container. If you leave it laying about it just mucks up the inventory processes of the game. If you put it in a container or body, eventually it will reset and disappear.
5) Get to know which items are permanent (non-respawing) and make sure to keep all of them in one place (or on a thrall if you need to), preferably a permanent chest or container. If it's stuff I give a damn about I use one of my own chest - otherwise I stick it all in the Treasure I chest by Riverwood and forget about it.
3) Don't over enchant and carry multiple enchantment sets. Double enchant one set of something and stick with it (you can always re-enchant more later if you need to or want to make a change).
4) Don't over enchant your followers - it's almost as bad as carrying around multiple highly enchanted items yourself.
5) Keep your quest logs clean - you can have a few in there, but, don't let the list get too long.
The above seems to help with load times, the "stutter" and freeze affect that often happens in the Rift and the exceeding slow inventory process when searching for things.
Plus you end up rich, rich, rich! And that helps.
Why is the system settings greyed out? I couldn't change the settings, save, or even quit the game. Also, the game autosaved several different times when I went to the character menu, but it didn't actually save anything.
Dabiene Caristiana
Your friendly neighborhood weirdo
Sometimes it happens when something important takes place and it auto saves, or you have the character menu up and then you bring up the save menu.
If that's not it... Might have to restart you PS3. Here are some discussions about this:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615804-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/65813264
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615804-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/65108216
http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/The-Elder-Scrolls/Skyrim-won-t-let-me-save/td-p/18660588
If that's not it... Might have to restart you PS3. Here are some discussions about this:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615804-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/65813264
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615804-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/65108216
http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/The-Elder-Scrolls/Skyrim-won-t-let-me-save/td-p/18660588
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
On my system, when stuff is greyed out, it means that it's in the midst of a save already, and sometimes, that it's not allowed at the moment (although that's very rare).I'm on PS3 as well and, while load times are still long (30 seconds or so most times), I've discovered the following slow things down once you get to level 30 or so and just get worse if you don't address them:
1) Autosaves - turn 'em off and just save a lot. Your game will still autosave occasionally when you go to your inventory screen, even if you set it for a really long period, but, not as often.
2) Don't hoard stuff - someone here on the forums told me that that can affect things and, yes it does! Just get rid of y our crap. You don't need it, and, frankly, do you really need 1,000 iron ingots?
3) If you have hearthfire - DO NOT build the library. I know it's cool, but it also has the same affect as 2)
4) NEVER leave weapons, armor, etc... just laying about after an encounter. Gather it up and, if you need to, stick it in to the corpse of your victim or in to a chest or container. If you leave it laying about it just mucks up the inventory processes of the game. If you put it in a container or body, eventually it will reset and disappear.
5) Get to know which items are permanent (non-respawing) and make sure to keep all of them in one place (or on a thrall if you need to), preferably a permanent chest or container. If it's stuff I give a damn about I use one of my own chest - otherwise I stick it all in the Treasure I chest by Riverwood and forget about it.
3) Don't over enchant and carry multiple enchantment sets. Double enchant one set of something and stick with it (you can always re-enchant more later if you need to or want to make a change).
4) Don't over enchant your followers - it's almost as bad as carrying around multiple highly enchanted items yourself.
5) Keep your quest logs clean - you can have a few in there, but, don't let the list get too long.
The above seems to help with load times, the "stutter" and freeze affect that often happens in the Rift and the exceeding slow inventory process when searching for things.
Plus you end up rich, rich, rich! And that helps.
Why is the system settings greyed out? I couldn't change the settings, save, or even quit the game. Also, the game autosaved several different times when I went to the character menu, but it didn't actually save anything.
What do you mean it didn't save anything? Did you go to Load? All the saves are on the Load screen, including the autosaves.
crashhat69
Member
I read all those actually and nothing helped.
Dabiene Caristiana
Your friendly neighborhood weirdo
Hm... Well... I got nothin'. Sorry I couldn't be of any help. Daelon could probably help you better than I could anyway.
crashhat69
Member
On my system, when stuff is greyed out, it means that it's in the midst of a save already, and sometimes, that it's not allowed at the moment (although that's very rare).
What do you mean it didn't save anything? Did you go to Load? All the saves are on the Load screen, including the autosaves.[/QUOTE]
The load option was greyed out so I quit the game, went to my game saves on my ps3 and the only one on there was the one right before you create your character.
What do you mean it didn't save anything? Did you go to Load? All the saves are on the Load screen, including the autosaves.[/QUOTE]
The load option was greyed out so I quit the game, went to my game saves on my ps3 and the only one on there was the one right before you create your character.
crashhat69
Member
Thanks for trying though.
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
The load option was greyed out so I quit the game, went to my game saves on my ps3 and the only one on there was the one right before you create your character.[/QUOTE]
That is very strange. I had something similar happened when I first uploaded the DLCs from Sony. I ended up having to completely delete the settings file for Skyrim and installing it then reuploading the DLCs. It actually sounds like you may have an issue with your software on the PS3. I've had to reset to factory a few times over the years and start over. I just make sure to save my games to a stick or an auxiliary drive before I do though (fortunately there's a USB on all of the PS3s).
Let me know how it goes if you decide to do that.
crashhat69
Member
That is very strange. I had something similar happened when I first uploaded the DLCs from Sony. I ended up having to completely delete the settings file for Skyrim and installing it then reuploading the DLCs. It actually sounds like you may have an issue with your software on the PS3. I've had to reset to factory a few times over the years and start over. I just make sure to save my games to a stick or an auxiliary drive before I do though (fortunately there's a USB on all of the PS3s).
Let me know how it goes if you decide to do that.[/QUOTE]
It is strange. Ive had skyrim for like 3 years and I've never had this problem before.I'll try and delete everything again and see if that fixes the problem.
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
It is strange. Ive had skyrim for like 3 years and I've never had this problem before.I'll try and delete everything again and see if that fixes the problem.[/QUOTE]
It could also be the old copy. Mine is getting more and more glitchy so I'm going to pick up a new copy this weekend anyhow. Especially as I'm well over 5K hours at this point, I think my poor disc is just tired.
crashhat69
Member
It could also be the old copy. Mine is getting more and more glitchy so I'm going to pick up a new copy this weekend anyhow. Especially as I'm well over 5K hours at this point, I think my poor disc is just tired.
[/QUOTE]I deleted everything that had to do with skyrim again and it fixed the problem. I didn't know that could happen with game disks, or any disks for that matter.
Kohlar the Unkilled
Time for some ale
1) Autosaves - turn 'em off and just save a lot. Your game will still autosave occasionally when you go to your inventory screen, even if you set it for a really long period, but, not as often.
2) Don't hoard stuff - someone here on the forums told me that that can affect things and, yes it does! Just get rid of y our crap. You don't need it, and, frankly, do you really need 1,000 iron ingots?
3) If you have hearthfire - DO NOT build the library. I know it's cool, but it also has the same affect as 2)
4) NEVER leave weapons, armor, etc... just laying about after an encounter. Gather it up and, if you need to, stick it in to the corpse of your victim or in to a chest or container. If you leave it laying about it just mucks up the inventory processes of the game. If you put it in a container or body, eventually it will reset and disappear.
5) Get to know which items are permanent (non-respawing) and make sure to keep all of them in one place (or on a thrall if you need to), preferably a permanent chest or container. If it's stuff I give a damn about I use one of my own chest - otherwise I stick it all in the Treasure I chest by Riverwood and forget about it.
3) Don't over enchant and carry multiple enchantment sets. Double enchant one set of something and stick with it (you can always re-enchant more later if you need to or want to make a change).
4) Don't over enchant your followers - it's almost as bad as carrying around multiple highly enchanted items yourself.
5) Keep your quest logs clean - you can have a few in there, but, don't let the list get too long.
The above seems to help with load times, the "stutter" and freeze affect that often happens in the Rift and the exceeding slow inventory process when searching for things.
Plus you end up rich, rich, rich! And that helps.
I'm actually doing everything that you've said not to do here. Infact from 2) on down, I could'nt not do those things! Tis simply joyous to load display cases full of mead bottles, fill all the weapon racks in every property, and leave dozens of smithed weapons laying about the floor of my cellar. And yes, I like to keep around a 1000 iron ingots in total along with hundreds of ebony, just in case. Sometimes a drop some cheese wheels and watch them roll down hill... my characters all get laggy by about lvl 35, but I've never had issues like what crashhat has had.
Sorry I couldn't actually contribute, just thought I'd comment. Hope you get it sorted out.
EDIT: We posted at the same time, glad you got it fixed.
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