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Ah yes and something I've realized I should add onto my previous statement. I kind of said this on that post but I think I should be a bit more specific. When I say that if you want to play as a skimpy armored female, have at it, I meant that. But what I wanted to add onto that is that if that is part of your character, then all the better. If for example you are female and like to play a skimpily armored hussy, and that's part of your character, say they are a seductress even who uses her feminine wiles to get her way - I can understand that. I've seen a few other female RPG players who do this and once or twice I've considered it myself. To me, it makes more sense if that's a part of your character. Same goes if you're RPing a dude who likes the power trip of having scantily clad women with him at all times. I get that a bit more and that's more on the okay side of things, for me atleast. I can get on board with that. But if you have those just for kicks or whatever else, I can't agree with that. I will advocate for your right to have it - I'm an American and all for free speech and all that. But again, does not mean I agree with it. So I hope that is a bit clearer. May seem contradictory, but that's my opinion.


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aidenboy

New Member
First I'm going to post a response then I'm going to plopspost here. (cus ya'll pissed me off)

Response:
Women by default are weaker than men physically. How in the blue hell can you expect a female to wear the same armor as a male. Even men in the dark ages struggled to wear armor because of how heavy it is. Ever try to wear chain mail? I didn't think so. Even a body building female struggles arm wrestling against average men. This biological difference is undeniable fact, so what makes you think they can handle the big stuff that even males struggle with? Less armor also means on either gender, more dexterity. This means that females can maneuver better than if they were fully armored, which if you want immersion, then skimpy is the answer, to bad so sad. (granted it doesn't need to be too revealing, but this serves another purpose as well) Women gain an advantage through sensuality. Sexuality can be used to distract, and can lead to tactical advantages. Men and women are biologically hardwired to be easier on the female sex. With revealing clothing a female could use her charms to get males to go easier on them.(I'm sure most of you have played online mmo's, ya know? where people will give female toon's free good loot, just for being female) Logically males should have a more difficult time moving as well but a lot of video game dev's either don't take that into consideration, or it would take way too much work to code all of that. We know that it takes more effort to make females than males, due to physical differences, this means more effort than just doing default for everyone and supplementing with different armor styles. So really, if you ask me, skimpy armor is more immersive than the regular brand because I live in a thing called reality which is okay in doses when it comes to video games.

Check out this link for a pretty damn accurate theory on skimpy armor

Female Armor, How it Works
by Lockstin & Gnoggin


plopspost:
So what I'm seeing here is a bunch of guys or gals who either don't like nudity, are casual players, gay, or beta cuck's (possibly hate women?). I'm just curious here. Are any of you above the age of 18, and if so, what do you have against the nude female form? Why do you only picture fat dudes who can't get a chick that play with these mods? <(this type of plopsposting is for trolls and losers, even if I'm doing it myself right now "call me a hypocrite idgaf") It's like you're a bunch of loser's who sit around ragging on people who can truly appreciate the capabilities of these games and the ones who have modded/created them. Sex is a huge facet of everyone's life no matter who you are so what do you have against it and nudity? Don't install the mods you don't want and don't bitch about the ones that exist. ecozombie is decently on the money here except for one small thing. Why not mod for kicks, plopss, and giggles? I add mods that are literally just hilarious and run around as a nude female mage because that's how I play. If you get turned on by virtual sex who cares? There are more dirtier kinks than that! I game for enjoyment, what do you game for? From what I have read for the most part it isn't to enjoy the game, it's to bitch about people who don't do it your way. BTW SEX SELL'S DEAL WITH IT!
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
First I'm going to post a response then I'm going to pl***post here. (cus ya'll pissed me off)

Response:
Women by default are weaker than men physically. How in the blue hell can you expect a female to wear the same armor as a male. Even men in the dark ages struggled to wear armor because of how heavy it is. Ever try to wear chain mail? I didn't think so. Even a body building female struggles arm wrestling against average men. This biological difference is undeniable fact, so what makes you think they can handle the big stuff that even males struggle with? Less armor also means on either gender, more dexterity. This means that females can maneuver better than if they were fully armored, which if you want immersion, then skimpy is the answer, to bad so sad. (granted it doesn't need to be too revealing, but this serves another purpose as well) Women gain an advantage through sensuality. Sexuality can be used to distract, and can lead to tactical advantages. Men and women are biologically hardwired to be easier on the female sex. With revealing clothing a female could use her charms to get males to go easier on them.(I'm sure most of you have played online mmo's, ya know? where people will give female toon's free good loot, just for being female) Logically males should have a more difficult time moving as well but a lot of video game dev's either don't take that into consideration, or it would take way too much work to code all of that. We know that it takes more effort to make females than males, due to physical differences, this means more effort than just doing default for everyone and supplementing with different armor styles. So really, if you ask me, skimpy armor is more immersive than the regular brand because I live in a thing called reality which is okay in doses when it comes to video games.

Check out this link for a pretty damn accurate theory on skimpy armor

Female Armor, How it Works
by Lockstin & Gnoggin


pl***post:
So what I'm seeing here is a bunch of guys or gals who either don't like nudity, are casual players, gay, or beta cuck's (possibly hate women?). I'm just curious here. Are any of you above the age of 18, and if so, what do you have against the nude female form? Why do you only picture fat dudes who can't get a chick that play with these mods? <(this type of pl***posting is for trolls and losers, even if I'm doing it myself right now "call me a hypocrite idgaf") It's like you're a bunch of loser's who sit around ragging on people who can truly appreciate the capabilities of these games and the ones who have modded/created them. Sex is a huge facet of everyone's life no matter who you are so what do you have against it and nudity? Don't install the mods you don't want and don't bitch about the ones that exist. ecozombie is decently on the money here except for one small thing. Why not mod for kicks, pl***s, and giggles? I add mods that are literally just hilarious and run around as a nude female mage because that's how I play. If you get turned on by virtual sex who cares? There are more dirtier kinks than that! I game for enjoyment, what do you game for? From what I have read for the most part it isn't to enjoy the game, it's to bitch about people who don't do it your way. BTW SEX SELL'S DEAL WITH IT!
That is one of the most sexist, immature and downright ignorant posts I have ever read. All in justification of more boobies and butt.

We need to introduce you to my friend Sara. Smart, sexy, a blackbelt in karate, and an ex-marine that could kick your everlovin' butt from here to Tuesday.

Don't try your misogynistic crap on us you neanderthal (sorry neanderthal's, no insult intended).

Funny you don't have a problem with the nude female form, but I can bet you'd have an issue if men were treated the same way.

Not only have you been reported as a ranter, but you have been summarily ignored.

This is not the forum for you. Go back to Steam, Twitter or FAQ. We don't need nor want you.
 

aidenboy

New Member
First I'm going to post a response then I'm going to pl***post here. (cus ya'll pissed me off)

Response:
Women by default are weaker than men physically. How in the blue hell can you expect a female to wear the same armor as a male. Even men in the dark ages struggled to wear armor because of how heavy it is. Ever try to wear chain mail? I didn't think so. Even a body building female struggles arm wrestling against average men. This biological difference is undeniable fact, so what makes you think they can handle the big stuff that even males struggle with? Less armor also means on either gender, more dexterity. This means that females can maneuver better than if they were fully armored, which if you want immersion, then skimpy is the answer, to bad so sad. (granted it doesn't need to be too revealing, but this serves another purpose as well) Women gain an advantage through sensuality. Sexuality can be used to distract, and can lead to tactical advantages. Men and women are biologically hardwired to be easier on the female sex. With revealing clothing a female could use her charms to get males to go easier on them.(I'm sure most of you have played online mmo's, ya know? where people will give female toon's free good loot, just for being female) Logically males should have a more difficult time moving as well but a lot of video game dev's either don't take that into consideration, or it would take way too much work to code all of that. We know that it takes more effort to make females than males, due to physical differences, this means more effort than just doing default for everyone and supplementing with different armor styles. So really, if you ask me, skimpy armor is more immersive than the regular brand because I live in a thing called reality which is okay in doses when it comes to video games.

Check out this link for a pretty damn accurate theory on skimpy armor

Female Armor, How it Works
by Lockstin & Gnoggin


pl***post:
So what I'm seeing here is a bunch of guys or gals who either don't like nudity, are casual players, gay, or beta cuck's (possibly hate women?). I'm just curious here. Are any of you above the age of 18, and if so, what do you have against the nude female form? Why do you only picture fat dudes who can't get a chick that play with these mods? <(this type of pl***posting is for trolls and losers, even if I'm doing it myself right now "call me a hypocrite idgaf") It's like you're a bunch of loser's who sit around ragging on people who can truly appreciate the capabilities of these games and the ones who have modded/created them. Sex is a huge facet of everyone's life no matter who you are so what do you have against it and nudity? Don't install the mods you don't want and don't bitch about the ones that exist. ecozombie is decently on the money here except for one small thing. Why not mod for kicks, pl***s, and giggles? I add mods that are literally just hilarious and run around as a nude female mage because that's how I play. If you get turned on by virtual sex who cares? There are more dirtier kinks than that! I game for enjoyment, what do you game for? From what I have read for the most part it isn't to enjoy the game, it's to bitch about people who don't do it your way. BTW SEX SELL'S DEAL WITH IT!
That is one of the most sexist, immature and downright ignorant posts I have ever read. All in justification of more boobies and butt.

We need to introduce you to my friend Sara. Smart, sexy, a blackbelt in karate, and an ex-marine that could kick your everlovin' butt from here to Tuesday.

Don't try your misogynistic crap on us you neanderthal (sorry neanderthal's, no insult intended).

Funny you don't have a problem with the nude female form, but I can bet you'd have an issue if men were treated the same way.

Not only have you been reported as a ranter, but you have been summarily ignored.

This is not the forum for you. Go back to Steam, Twitter or FAQ. We don't need nor want you.

Lol mysogny is such a funny word. From what I remember, it means a hatred of women, but it's so funny how that definition becomes so fluid when you ladies feel like it. IDR ever posting anything hateful about women in my response either. I love the dictionary ya know? I also never disrespected women within my post, so I'll be glad to fight that charge too (even though disrespecting women or men should be held to a same standard level). As far as defending the justification for more boobs and butt, ofc I would. I am a heterosexual male. I also don't advise threatening people, or insinuating a threat. I'm pretty sure that's also report worthy.
 

kenia153

Member
I'd just like to say we're talking about skyrim here, man. I believe anyone can play the game how they want but realistically, I think you forgot skyrim is cold AF dude.

I know i'm not gonna be walking around in a chainmail bikini. o___o
 

Gregor Moon Fang

Champion of Azura
You're trying to use logic of an age nearly 700 years ago in the real world and injecting it into a fantasy land where talking cats and humanoid lizards are seen as normal people. That's purely asinine. The thing is in the world of TES women are seen as equal to the men. They're capable of accomplishing the same feats, achieving the same strength, attaining the same knowledge, etc. That's why they allow you to choose between playing as a man or a woman and abilities/skills are basically the same (although in the previous games stats were the same but distributed differently). Trying to explain why real world logic should be implemented in a fantasy land with "cuz mah logic" simply dilutes it.

Speaking of real world logic, what good is using sex appeal to distract an opponent during combat supposed to be? It's like you're saying that female warriors can only be effective when their opponent is distracted by her tits hanging out or when her ass is exposed. Armor is made to be used for comfort and/or protection. When your armor is only useful for distraction, you're SOL when your opponent isn't effected by it.

Lastly, if you want people to take you seriously, don't resort to insults when people don't think the way you do.

"Oh these people don't agree with my view that women are lesser beings than men and nothing more than eye candy. Let's belittle them because there's obviously something wrong with them."

It makes you look pathetic.
 

aidenboy

New Member
I'd just like to say we're talking about skyrim here, man. I believe anyone can play the game how they want but realistically, I think you forgot skyrim is cold AF dude.

I know i'm not gonna be walking around in a chainmail bikini. o___o
This is a fair point.
 

aidenboy

New Member
You're trying to use logic of an age nearly 700 years ago in the real world and injecting it into a fantasy land where talking cats and humanoid lizards are seen as normal people. That's purely asinine. The thing is in the world of TES women are seen as equal to the men. They're capable of accomplishing the same feats, achieving the same strength, attaining the same knowledge, etc. That's why they allow you to choose between playing as a man or a woman and abilities/skills are basically the same (although in the previous games stats were the same but distributed differently). Trying to explain why real world logic should be implemented in a fantasy land with "cuz mah logic" simply dilutes it.

Speaking of real world logic, what good is using sex appeal to distract an opponent during combat supposed to be? It's like you're saying that female warriors can only be effective when their opponent is distracted by her tits hanging out or when her ass is exposed. Armor is made to be used for comfort and/or protection. When your armor is only useful for distraction, you're SOL when your opponent isn't effected by it.

Lastly, if you want people to take you seriously, don't resort to insults when people don't think the way you do.

"Oh these people don't agree with my view that women are lesser beings than men and nothing more than eye candy. Let's belittle them because there's obviously something wrong with them."

It makes you look pathetic.
I can't really respond to you when you misrepresent what I had said. Let's try rewording this whole thing to represent what I actually said, then I'll give you a real response.
 

Gregor Moon Fang

Champion of Azura
If that was truly the case you would simply ignore my post. It sounds more like you don't have anything to respond with but very well. I'll play your game. I'll just TL;DR your post in the way I interpreted it.

"Women shouldn't be unable to do anything that men can't or struggle to do because they are physically inferior."

"Women should stick to light armor because it's easy to maneuver in and they should wear something skimpy "cuz immersion."

"Women should use their feminine wiles to their advantage because all men are horny virgins that will do anything to get brownie points just because she's a woman."

As for your rant, I basically see it as "I like getting turned on by my female character and something's wrong with you if you don't."

If I misinterpreted it then by all means show me. However if you want to be taken seriously, I'd suggest doing it without insult.
 

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