I'm going to start an evil roleplay.... Which quest should I do/avoid?

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Brofski

Member
I want to make a character who is inherently evil. Not much of a backstory, he will just crave power. I won't help anyone I see on the road or do quests helping people. In fact, if I see people on the road, I'll probably kill them to increase my skill and loot them for gold and stuff to resell.

My main question is, what quest would suit an evil plathrough?

Dark brotherhood of course. No question there. Thieve's Guild too. I know the game makes you think you're noble towards the end of the questline but you're just saving something which is bad anyway.

Are all the Daedric quests? I mean, the one where you help the orc tribe to get Volendrung doesn't seem like you're doing wrong. Neither does Meridia's beacon really? The other Deadric ones I can think of do though.

The forsworn quests? I guess you're sort of siding with the bad guys there? Suppose if you look on them as muderers or freedom fighters.

Dawnguard and becoming a vampire should be considered evil too I guess.

Any other ideas?
 

Brofski

Member
Also, I've never played as a vampire before. If I was to do so, will I need to upgrade my Magika beforehand? Or can you get by fine with low Magika?
 

Pete

Well-Known Member
Well I love playing vampires. I prefer to play them as the game portrays them: 1H & spell, Light Armor. I stick to Iron or Steel and enchant them. So my key skill trees are illusion, conjuration (raise dead only or summon from the soul carn only), destruction, enchant and sneak. A little bit of 1H, Light armor and bow. Combat style of 1H magic to weaken with 1H attack. No dual casting. I rely on vamp drain for healing. As for skill points, I do a health and magic equal and a little stamina.

As far as the quests, I stay away from good deadra ones (these only 3 I believe). For the quests in general, depends on how you define evil? Madness evil like the vamps who attack towns. To me it's all about Domination and Deception, not murder (aka Molog Bal) submit, covert, destroy. No Dark Brother hood - I'm not for hire. No Thieves - I serve just one lord. Generally I do 1/2 Main quest line, complete dawngaurd, second 1/2 Main, then dragon born. Along of course with house of horrors and the various town / misc quests the whole time to bulk up skills. One thing the Volkar vamps don't like, is when events stir up the herd and make it more difficult to feed. So other evils that interfere with your own are not allowed ;)

My favorite weapon enchant is the lunar one (since your out at night). It's a wake up call when your battling out side and it stops working :). Also you get a lot of charges with a smaller gems.

If you can do mods try out better vampires by brennen. Doesn't break quests and makes playing a vamp fun.

Good or should I say bad luck!
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
All of them except the DB and Dawnguard (and you may even want to avoid them as well since, technically, you will be evil and really shouldn't be helping anybody in the first place). Off the top of my head, the only, truly evil ones are the Daedric Quests for Maphala and Molag Bol. They are completely selfish and you help absolutely no-one but yourself.

This is why it's hard to play either completely evil or completely good in SR. You're either helping or hurting somebody no matter what questlines you do and often both.
 

JoeReese

Well-Known Member
I really have to find a way to weaponize gourds, and then making the DB armor all red shouldn't be a problem.

 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
I really have to find a way to weaponize gourds, and then making the DB armor all red shouldn't be a problem.

BTW. Is it my imagination or are all those gourds strewn about SR totally pointless (as are many things). You can't use them for alchemy or eat them. What are they for, decoration? Hey! There's an idea, I'll create a character who collects cheese and gourds and fills up entire rooms with them. Hmm... Actually that sounds like a good idea for hors'de'ouvres. Now to get some bread....
 

Manmangler

Well-Known Member
Totally Evil character will enjoy mayhem and personal misery
- Ruin Narfis day to tell his sister
- Bad new Angela to aromatics (Solitude)
- Lights out
- The Chief of Thirsk Hall
- No One Escapes Cidhna Mine, ally with forworn and kill many as you escape :)
- Blood in the Ice, Blame wrong man :)
- The Blessings of Nature, hurt the three
- In My Time Of Need Play both sides, kill em all
- Delayed Burial, refuse help (see what happens to farmer and wife afterwards)
- Tending the Flames, make the story and cheat queen
- The Lover's Requital
- Find evidence of a Talos worshipper for the
- A Lovely Letter, funny fake letter fun
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
Totally Evil character will enjoy mayhem and personal misery
- Ruin Narfis day to tell his sister
- Bad new Angela to aromatics (Solitude)
- Lights out
- The Chief of Thirsk Hall
- No One Escapes Cidhna Mine, ally with forworn and kill many as you escape :)
- Blood in the Ice, Blame wrong man :)
- The Blessings of Nature, hurt the three
- In My Time Of Need Play both sides, kill em all
- Delayed Burial, refuse help (see what happens to farmer and wife afterwards)
- Tending the Flames, make the story and cheat queen
- The Lover's Requital
- Find evidence of a Talos worshipper for the
- A Lovely Letter, funny fake letter fun
While obnoxious, I don't really see any of these as particularly "evil". Some are mean, some are actually helpful to other parties and some are unavoidable.

Let's do true evil. I think I'll get SR on PC and set ALL folks in the province as non-essential then kill everybody! Not just to kill them. So I can take all their stuff. Then hoard it and wander about rubbing my hands together chuckling evilly as I relieve every bloody moment of my mayhem over and over and over again. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ooo! Or how's about going around killing the parents of every child in Skyrim just so they become orphans and have to live on the street!

Ooo! How about waiting until married couples go in to the house together and then just killing one of the spouses in front of the other just for the thrill of it!

Ooo! How about joining the Stormcloaks... nothing else. Just joining the Stormcloaks. :)
 

Morgan

Well-Known Member
BTW. Is it my imagination or are all those gourds strewn about SR totally pointless (as are many things). You can't use them for alchemy or eat them. What are they for, decoration? Hey! There's an idea, I'll create a character who collects cheese and gourds and fills up entire rooms with them. Hmm... Actually that sounds like a good idea for hors'de'ouvres. Now to get some bread....

They're a holdover from unreleased Skyrim: Samba Style, a DLC add-on to the Bard's Guild where you have to collect various equipment and followers then engage in a conga line taking you from Solitude to Blackbriar Meadery in Riften, getting plowed the whole way.
 

JoeReese

Well-Known Member
BTW. Is it my imagination or are all those gourds strewn about SR totally pointless (as are many things). You can't use them for alchemy or eat them. What are they for, decoration? Hey! There's an idea, I'll create a character who collects cheese and gourds and fills up entire rooms with them. Hmm... Actually that sounds like a good idea for hors'de'ouvres. Now to get some bread....

They're a holdover from unreleased Skyrim: Samba Style, a DLC add-on to the Bard's Guild where you have to collect various equipment and followers then engage in a conga line taking you from Solitude to Blackbriar Meadery in Riften, getting plowed the whole way.
LOL, sounds like a bad weekend. There is a mod out there, somewhere, with playable flute weapons. Someone posted the vid a while back. The bard plays the flute, then beats people with it.
 

Raijin

A Mage that loves a Templar
Playing Skyrim as an uncaring evil character will be short lived... In fact you would find yourself to be bored to death, and would be on the verge of starting up a new character. I mean what can you do as an evil Dragonborn? You can't do the mainquest because you would be helping people from being a snack by a big black dragon.

you can't:
Attack bandits because they're like you... evil
Attack bears and any other monstrous beasts because you would be saving humans and elves from being attacked by them.
 

Manmangler

Well-Known Member
Evil is no alliance
True Evil do bad things to all good or evil.

Evil do all kind bad thing big or small, destroy world or steal candy from children.
 

Morgan

Well-Known Member
Playing Skyrim as an uncaring evil character will be short lived... In fact you would find yourself to be bored to death, and would be on the verge of starting up a new character. I mean what can you do as an evil Dragonborn? You can't do the mainquest because you would be helping people from being a snack by a big black dragon.

you can't:
Attack bandits because they're like you... evil
Attack bears and any other monstrous beasts because you would be saving humans and elves from being attacked by them.


You've got to really decide what "evil" means then. The definition I get from your examples seems to be only doing things that will harm as many people as possible, to the extent of never doing anything that has any beneficial result. I think a better (and more playable) definition is one where you simply devalue or don't consider at all an action's effect on others if the benefit is to yourself. Killing a bandit or bear that attacked you or because you wanted their stuff is self-defense/hunting, and is neither good nor evil. Killing a bandit to rescue someone being attacked would be good, while passing by (or better, waiting until he finished then attacking for double loot) would be evil. Saving the world intentionally is good, saving it as an accidental result of furthering your own self-interests is neutral to evil.
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
Evil is no alliance
True Evil do bad things to all good or evil.

Evil do all kind bad thing big or small, destroy world or steal candy from children.
Stealing candy from children is evil? I really should stop doing it then. Not only do their parents get upset, but the kids never put up a fight. :)
 

shadowkitty

Mistress of Shadows
If you haven't got the "Oblivion Walker" achievement then I'd go for all of the Daedric quests. Even though some of them seem a little more on the good side, you still do evil things to start the quest, and obtain the items. (eg: kill the Orc chief yourself) I mean, isn't killing people/things considered inherently evil in itself?
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
If you haven't got the "Oblivion Walker" achievement then I'd go for all of the Daedric quests. Even though some of them seem a little more on the good side, you still do evil things to start the quest, and obtain the items. (eg: kill the Orc chief yourself) I mean, isn't killing people/things considered inherently evil in itself?
Nah. Not if they've got good pl*** for you to loot off their carcasses. It's just being an opportunist. It's only evil if you don't get any good stuff out of it. :)
 

shadowkitty

Mistress of Shadows
If you haven't got the "Oblivion Walker" achievement then I'd go for all of the Daedric quests. Even though some of them seem a little more on the good side, you still do evil things to start the quest, and obtain the items. (eg: kill the Orc chief yourself) I mean, isn't killing people/things considered inherently evil in itself?
Nah. Not if they've got good pl*** for you to loot off their carcasses. It's just being an opportunist. It's only evil if you don't get any good stuff out of it. :)
But you don't know that until you loot their bodies... :p You're killing in the off chance they might have something worth while on them.
 

Daelon DuLac

How do you backstab a Dragon?
If you haven't got the "Oblivion Walker" achievement then I'd go for all of the Daedric quests. Even though some of them seem a little more on the good side, you still do evil things to start the quest, and obtain the items. (eg: kill the Orc chief yourself) I mean, isn't killing people/things considered inherently evil in itself?
Nah. Not if they've got good pl*** for you to loot off their carcasses. It's just being an opportunist. It's only evil if you don't get any good stuff out of it. :)
But you don't know that until you loot their bodies... :p You're killing in the off chance they might have something worth while on them.
True, true. I suppose I'll have to reassess my murderous urges. Hmm....
 

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