Would the Nords accept an Argonian as a Jarl?
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JoeReese
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Interesting. I don't know. I would imagine most would be against it at first, simply because people don't like being ruled by outsiders of any sort. If it was a jarl installed by the victors, it's natural to expect some (a lot of) suspicion as to their intentions, fairness, etc. If the jarl turns out to be a decent and fair one, then some would certainly come to accept him or her in spite of their being an outsider, but there would always be some who will never accept any but their own. I think the jarl would have to work very hard to establish, and keep, trust with the nords at that point.
jeremy.williams57.jw2
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I don't think they would. More than a few nords absolutely hate Argonians. So I really doubt they would but ya never know.
TheVeryHungryCaterpillar
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I would say no, definitely not. Argonians are subject to racism and segregation in Skyrim, so the Nords as a whole would not accept one as a Jarl. That said there would probably be some exceptions, but very few.
T. Rakinson
A Brute among Beasts
Most likely not, but if it ever did happen, 'aye it would be a fine tale...
Dibs on the Rights to the story!
Back on the question. Regardless of Public representation or foreign occupation, I dont believe an Argonian could rule over a hold in Skyrim, Lest/unless the whole Jarl system be abolished. I dont see Nords taking nicely to that.
I mean, look at Solitude of Haaffingar (sp.). Centre of Imperial Skyrim, yet they sat a Nord down as Jarl (though it does make sense considering Elisif's lineage). It's so they still had public support. If they had put an Imperial (nevermind something as far-fetched as an Argonian) as the Hold's new Jarl, then the entirety of Skyrim's populace would be up in arms.
Sorry, going off topic.
To Re-iterate, probably not.
Dibs on the Rights to the story!
Back on the question. Regardless of Public representation or foreign occupation, I dont believe an Argonian could rule over a hold in Skyrim, Lest/unless the whole Jarl system be abolished. I dont see Nords taking nicely to that.
I mean, look at Solitude of Haaffingar (sp.). Centre of Imperial Skyrim, yet they sat a Nord down as Jarl (though it does make sense considering Elisif's lineage). It's so they still had public support. If they had put an Imperial (nevermind something as far-fetched as an Argonian) as the Hold's new Jarl, then the entirety of Skyrim's populace would be up in arms.
Sorry, going off topic.
To Re-iterate, probably not.
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
No. Not gonna happen. Nords would never accept. I have a feeling they'd accept an Altmer before they would accept an Argonian. They only ones lower on the list would be a Khajit.
Lurknir
There's only one hell, the one we live in now.
Most likely not, but if it ever did happen, 'aye it would be a fine tale...
Dibs on the Rights to the story!
Back on the question. Regardless of Public representation or foreign occupation, I dont believe an Argonian could rule over a hold in Skyrim, Lest/unless the whole Jarl system be abolished. I dont see Nords taking nicely to that.
I mean, look at Solitude of Haaffingar (sp.). Centre of Imperial Skyrim, yet they sat a Nord down as Jarl (though it does make sense considering Elisif's lineage). It's so they still had public support. If they had put an Imperial (nevermind something as far-fetched as an Argonian) as the Hold's new Jarl, then the entirety of Skyrim's populace would be up in arms.
Sorry, going off topic.
To Re-iterate, probably not.
What about in Riften, it's a corrupt city. Maybe an Argonian could be seated there?
T. Rakinson
A Brute among Beasts
All the more reason for Nord's to be suspicious. Though you have reminded me of something: is the Black-Briar family a Nord clan? She [Maven] does take over under Imperial rule, but mind you, any opposition, including a popular Argonian with nothing to lose, could simply be removed by her.
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
Only if he/she could kill Maven. I don't even think it's possible. Somehow, even with mods, she keeps turning up. I think she's the Devil.Most likely not, but if it ever did happen, 'aye it would be a fine tale...
Dibs on the Rights to the story!
Back on the question. Regardless of Public representation or foreign occupation, I dont believe an Argonian could rule over a hold in Skyrim, Lest/unless the whole Jarl system be abolished. I dont see Nords taking nicely to that.
I mean, look at Solitude of Haaffingar (sp.). Centre of Imperial Skyrim, yet they sat a Nord down as Jarl (though it does make sense considering Elisif's lineage). It's so they still had public support. If they had put an Imperial (nevermind something as far-fetched as an Argonian) as the Hold's new Jarl, then the entirety of Skyrim's populace would be up in arms.
Sorry, going off topic.
To Re-iterate, probably not.
What about in Riften, it's a corrupt city. Maybe an Argonian could be seated there?
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
Equal? They're shunted in to slums and relegated to tenements on a freezing doc. Riften is definitely an exception. You NEVER see an Argonian anywhere else unless they're a criminal, a bandit or an indentured servant. On the plus side, at least in Riften we've got some dern respectable ones - owning an inn, respected fishery workers, etc... Funny there aren't any khajit or argonians in the TG though. I run in to enough of them on the road. At least the DB has 1!
Gee, now I want to go back and play Skyrim and live in Riften. So many may be Maven haters, but, apparently she runs a much more accepting and integrated city (regardless of if she's Jarl, she's still in charge) than most of the Skyrim Cities.
Can you imagine Markarth with anything but Nords and Orcs? (and Thalmor of course). I don't see that happening.
Seanu Reaves
The Shogun of Gaming
the short answer is no. There are no non-nord Jarls and most Housecarls are also nords. Now there is one argonian Housecarl. But it is obviously a rarity for any non nord to hold that position (the only other non nord housecarls are redguards.)
Morgan
Well-Known Member
Um . . . and Dunmer. Don't forget about the first Housecarl one (typically) meets!
Really, I don't think most Nords would accept ANY non-Nord Jarl, even the ones that aren't otherwise prejudiced.
Pronged Pickle
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jeremy.williams57.jw2
New Member
Probably because they didn't program the minor NPCs talking about him. You gotta think outside of the game, how they'd be if you were actually there. Not just what happens in the game.
Pronged Pickle
Member
It should nonetheless be noted that he was, in most likelihood, appointed by Nords. Nords who supported the Stormcloaks.
Kohlar the Unkilled
Time for some ale
The Nords will support anyone who truly believes in their Gods.
Daelon DuLac
How do you backstab a Dragon?
What's a "Pure American"?
Lewsean
Member
Use a tiny bit of common sense and work it out your self instead of trying to be funny ^_^
