The Greybeards gave aid for war before. They constantly summon the Ash King and hes practically Unstoppable.
So common folk believe. Why didn't they do it during the Great War, or the Civil War or during the Oblivion Crisis?
Well like I said he finds that he's an old defenseless man who is quoted for suspicious acts and then he decides whether or not he can kill him.
Given Rimfaxe's quotes, it seems more likely the Penitus Oculatus wanted him to figure it out. What about the old man is suspicious, for him to observe, and carry out the kill.
So they kill you if you don't pass. Well that's fair.
Possibly. I'm not certain, but I wouldn't put it past them.
Doesn't mean they aren't going to organize ambushes, kill at night, be in general sneaky. The Stormcloaks, and Nords in general, excel at Raids.
Raids on forts, and established forces. Nords tend to fight open battles, entire armies smashing into each other.
Hammerfell isn't going to sit this war out. Morrowind seems okay, they're still recovering but if they have their quarrels with the Thalmor and The Empire.
I wouldn't even put it past Hammerfell invading Skyrim during their weakened state and taking some land from the Nords. That is the love between Hammerfell and Skyrim.
But do we know if they were using Materials from Valenwood or not. Its perfectly okay to build in Valenwood just so long as you don't harm the Forest.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Green_Pact_and_the_Dominion
The Green pact applies to Wood Elves. They're not allowed to harm the forests, it is unclear if that applies to outsiders.
Let me repeat: the relationship between the Khajiit and the Empire was awful while the relationship between The Thalmor and the Khajiit is good. Relationship with the citizenry is important.
The current relationship is unknown, the Khajiit caravan leader in Skyrim hates the Thalmor. Some probably like them, some hate them.
No she isn't, not anymore at least. She's been dead for over six hundred years, I think whatever influence she had, fell away by now.
I suppose so, just throwing it out there.
As you know the Imperials are based off of the Romans so this should be the same or similar. I'm calling his tactics crap because they were literally just: Charge from all sides and hope we win the city back.
I believe the term is called 'Pincer Movement' which is a military tactic, and has been used in nearly every war. Such a crap tactic that it is taught even today to Military Officers.
The point of such a tactic is isolating and surrounding the enemy.
Also if you had any knowledge of Roman history, you'd know the Legions weren't always full. The book 'The Great War' mentions the Military weakness of the Empire, do you honestly believe they had full Legions? Some perhaps, but certainly not all.
Name Five and how many of them were Nords?
Battlemage Welloc
Archmage Geirmund
Archmage Shalidor
The Dragon Priests
All the Archmages in Sovngarde
In the Elder Scrolls it means a lot.
Games, perhaps.
In battle they separate what you're good at based on race. Hence why Jonna led a legion of mostly Nords so they could be the pushing power.
You got that from one sentence, out of a lot of lore surrounding the Legion. How come nothing backs up your claim on this?
General Jonna led mostly Nord Legions, why? Because they were from Skyrim. My god, Nords coming out of Skyrim, who'd have thought.
No but they separate based on what people are good at. and The Legions Jonna commanded were mostly Nords because most Nords are good at a similar thing. Force and Ferocity.
Or maybe the fact Jonna was the Legion General in Skyrim and the Legions from Skyrim were mostly made up of Nords. Let that sink in.
Well then that's different. Being Elven definitely means they have a head start. Of course they have a natural weakness to Magic.
Not anymore, in past games they did. But you're trying to use game stats to back up your argument. Funny how they tend to change every game, they dumb down the traits. Look at Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, all the races. What is your theory on the changes? Is it forced evolution? Too much incest?
Again, it definitely gives you a head start, tell me, How many Bosmer warriors do you see on a daily basis.
In TESO, probably a lot.
Actually Redguards are naturally gifted and Nords are naturally resistant to Cold and Magical Frost as well as being Naturally Fierce in battle and Dunmer are naturally gifted in Destruction Magic as well as being immune to Fire The List goes on Drunken these are not stats this is in-game and out of game Lore.
Is it? Can you show me where all of this happens in lore? In the various books, journals and such. The games keep changing the stats, so next game you may have an even smaller resist frost on Nords or like the recent change from Oblivion, Nords being skilled in different skill trees. They were heavy armor last game.
Oh yeah it was attacked before and it was pretty grizzly for the attacking side.
Like?
After an entire war only NOW does he know where Nords go when they die.
Do you know where Imperials go? Or Altmer? You've fought a war against the Legion, killed many Imperials, you've killed many Thalmor. Yet... Can you answer to me where they go when they die?
Well then why didn't they just destroy the White Gold Tower while they had it for 30 days
Because hidden magical things just show themselves. It would probably take some time to figure out how to destroy it. Or maybe they need to deactivate the last tower first.
I honestly don't know, the thing doesn't exactly come with a "How to" instruction book. There isn't a "Don't press this button or world ends".
You're invading them, good luck.
And good luck with yours, hope they don't kill you to gruesomely. At least a Fire Explosion Spell is a relatively quick death.
Well then boo on him, that was Tiber Septim the man, I worship Talos, Ysmir, The Dragon of the North.
You don't even know what Talos is.
What are you saying. I'm saying Ulfric wasn't a Legate and your over there talking about how Ulfric was captured before the Imperial city fell.
I never called Ulfric a Legate? So where are you even getting that. Legions from Skyrim were being sent to Cyrodiil throughout the war. Not just when Jonna arrived.
And he didn't foresee them. Y'know for a the great tactician Titus claims to be its hard to believe he just wouldn't know there were Soldiers camped in Bravil and Skingrad.
He probably did know, the point of soldiers is to fight. Nords saw battle, some died and went to Sovngarde. What is your point? Did you think there would be no resistance from the Aldmeri when Titus II was trying to cut off the main army and surround them?
Basilisks might be a problem. how about Griffons, Werevultures.
They can have a ballista bolt to the face.
Who's to say there will be one random creature, How about ten or twenty how well are you going to fight against 20 griffons or twenty Basilisks.
They go in packs? Source? Oh wait, never mind.
Well you best use those to the best of your ability, because one tree limb snapped and its off to hell for you. Tell me, How are Thousands of Soldiers supposed to stick to a small road maybe about Ten Feet in Diameter.
People break tree branches and step on plants all the time in Valenwood.
Did you read the extensive list of creatures other than minotaurs because there were quite a bit.
Yeah, but do they all move together? Are they known to attack armies?
And where has this been said? I highly doubt a couple of Giant Snakes or Birds would wait for you to become a smaller force, but rather they would attack you while your all bunched up for easier pickings.
Where has this been said? No where, which is my point. If these creatures attack military forces, why is it not documented? Not even in TESO, unless you can correct me.
Because there are SO MANY of you.
Strength in numbers.
Then maybe a squad or two went missing, Now you're marching however many legions into Valenwood to attack the Bosmer who can morph into Hell Beasts at will, in full force.
Except they can't turn back. It requires a ritual, whcih they haven't used in god knows how long. Not even during the Alliance Wars.
You clearly stated this would be a problem for the Stormcloaks but it won't be for the young unfamiliar Imperials. HOW?
Because I'm biased obviously. When I'm not quoting lore text, I have that Imperial favored agenda. Perhaps the signature wasn't a good enough hint?
This is going to be a problem you will ALL DIE!!
It's all doom and gloom with you.
Why wouldn't he, They didn't hate/fear magic at that time they most likely would use it to their advantage. Also you quite clearly said they CAN use it at will.
Because it isn't mentioned. You can't just have an army of enchanted warriors without it telling you so. Ysgramor's 500 had powerful enchantments. But it doesn't make every Nordic army have it.
They can use it, but they do it rarely.
Anyone who know's what the Bosmer can do says so!
You lot didn't even know what a Wild Hunt was several debates ago, are you now experts?
Well I guess they're going to have to resurrect all their warriors after the attack in Valenwood because I'm quite certain that'll be the result.
It's a good thing Necromancy is legal, and we have many Necromancers in the Empire.
What do you mean by little support, He had a whole army backing him up ready to retake Markarth.
Then why isn't he High King? He's had Stormcloaks fighting for years, yet the Legion only stepped in a few months ago. He didn't have a whole army, he had a militia who answered Jarl Hrolfdir's call. He was just leading the attack, it didn't make it his.
The Empire made a huge mistake by giving this important assignment to someone who shows lack of remorse for other peoples lives but himself. Willing to stop acting like an idiot by weaseling himself out of being killed.
"Guards! Get the townspeople to safety!"
For someone who doesn't care about anyone except himself, that is an interesting order to give? Funny, where was that lack of remorse of peoples lives when Alduin was attacking.
At least Emperor Titus Mede II didn't act like a cry baby when he was about to be killed, and he didn't weasel himself out from being killed too. I give the Empire that much credit. The reason why the Empire is so weak is that Titus Mede II is unable to find suitable people to help run the Empire.
Tullius didn't cry, he didn't beg or try to 'weasel' himself out of being killed. In fact, General Tullius faced his death well, he merely says "So be it" when told he's to be killed then and there.
